Buyer Beware: Walmart Site to Store, An Open Letter
I believe it is important for anyone who is considering using Wal-Mart’s new Site to Store service to read the letter I sent Wal-Mart Corporate early this morning regarding my family’s significant problems with their service over the past week. Please read below.
“Wal-Mart Corporation:
My name is Tyler Thompson, a resident of Derby Kansas and a frequent customer of your stores. As a profession, I am a web developer in Wichita and also the Editor-in-Chief of a popular technology website PCMech.com. I am writing in utter disbelief of the events relating to your store, its customer service, and your new Site to Store service. Over the past week, my family’s patience has been pushed beyond the limit by the sheer lack of competence shown by the Wal-Mart employees at your Derby location.
Please let me begin by describing the situation over the last week. My mother and I had been looking for a game, Guitar Hero III for PlayStation 2 with a Guitar, for several days when I came across an available version at your online store. Immediately, I sent the link to my mother who proceeded to place an order on Tuesday December 4, 2007 with shipping options set for your new Site to Store service. The problems began here, as the credit card used for the transaction was declined three times by your online processing service and then was locked out by the same service for exceeding your overflow limit. My mother tried again with a different credit card, which worked perfectly the first time. It was not until later she realized that although your online processor had declined her first credit card, it had charged this card all three times for the amount of the order. After calling customer service, this issue was resolved quickly. Unfortunately, the problems did not end there, and they were relatively minor in comparison to what was to come.
On Saturday December 8, 2007, my mother received an email notification (the first sent by your service since the order) with the subject “Pickup Confirmation” – we believed this to be the notification promised as per your invoice’s instructions on how your Site to Store service worked, step one: “Wait for an email telling you your order is ready for pickup (7-10 days)” – however, the email did not mention anything about the order being ready for pickup. In fact, it was worded as if the order had already been picked up. Confused by the situation, I called the store to clarify whether this was the email notifying us the order was ready for pickup.
When I called, I immediately asked for a customer service representative, who I was readily transferred to. I inquired about the email we received and was then put on hold for “someone who knew something about how it worked.” After a few minutes, another person picks up the phone, and after again describing the situation to her, I was again told “I don’t know how that works, let me find someone who can help you.” Finally, on the third try, I was handed off to someone from the back of the store who “knew what they were doing”.
This person was very responsive and positive to deal with, as she promptly looked up our order, first by last name. She sounded frustrated when no results came back for an available pickup. She then asked for a street address to check for. Again, within seconds, she came back with a negative response about a pickup being ready. The representative then asked for an order number to search. I found the order number and read it to her over the phone, to a quick response of “Oh no. It shows the order has already been picked up. Are you sure you have not had anyone pick it up for you?” My response was that no one had picked up the order and the situation was not good. The representative looked up the order status further to find that there was a signature on file for the package. As soon as this was discovered, I was transferred to a manager, where I let my mother take over the phone conversation because she had been the one to place the order.
After a few minutes on the phone, my mother was asked to come into the store to discuss the matter further.
She left at around 10 PM and went to management in your Derby location. Obviously the signature was not a valid one for the package, and the situation began to escalate. After an employee from the stocking area confronted my mother and told her, several times, that “She was not perfect,” my mother asked for her to get out of her face, to deal strictly with management, and to be issued a refund. Three different managers refused to process the refund request, and at one point an employee told my mother “It would be extremely easy for anyone to just print off an order confirmation page and bring it in to the store for items such as that.” This has two meanings, first of which alleging that my mother was defrauding the company, or that Wal-Mart’s security is not tight enough regarding its online order process. After being refused the refund by the management, she requested to speak with corporate headquarters, which was originally denied, but upon further attempts was allowed in the store.
The lady who my mother dealt with at corporate was very accommodating and immediately told the manager in the store to process the refund and to apologize for the employee’s rudeness. The refund was eventually processed and corporate issued a new order to be shipped to our house for free.
First of all, the most important implication of this event is security. On the order confirmation page, step three, it says “Go to the Site to Store area at your store and present your printed email and a valid photo ID.” And under that, in at least two different areas, it lists the “Pickup Person” as “Kim Thompson”. If a photo ID is required, how did the box get signed for without an ID verifying the identity of the pickup person as “Kim Thompson”? The answer to this question is probably pretty simple – an employee had to have falsified the signature (a state felony as defined by KS 21-3710) and then stolen the package my mother had paid for (a state misdemeanor or felony as defined by KS 21-3701). Since the package could have crossed state lines, this action could also violate various Federal Interstate Commerce regulations.
Also, the implication that anyone could forge an email by your online store and come in to pick up the package is troubling. Being a web developer, I deal with internet security and e-commerce on a daily basis. As such, your website should have adequate protections built in to prevent such happenings. Also, in order to forge the order confirmation, one must know the order number, time of order, pickup person name, and credit card information. As this information was passed from your servers via Secured Sockets Layer communication, it would be impossible for an outside source to intercept the encrypted content and decrypt it for personal use. Internet security is not a joke, especially for someone who works in the industry.
Secondly, the way your store handled the situation was dysfunctional at best. From the very beginning, no one at the store seemed to know or understand how the Site to Store worked, and the way the management and employees communicated with my mother was offensive. Customer service should be a priority, especially in situations where it is possible that an employee stole merchandise belonging to a customer. My mother being told she was “not perfect” is extremely unprofessional and borderline on childish behavior. This kind of behavior is sickening from a company of your size.
Thirdly, if this can happen in Derby Kansas without anyone catching on, in how many of your other stores is this lack of oversight causing problems? How many other customers are going to be affected by similar incidents? This needs to be taken care of immediately.
As I mentioned earlier, I am the Editor-in-Chief of a website called PCMech.com. I am publishing this letter as an Open Letter on the website to warn our audience of the dysfunctional status of Site to Store, and also to hopefully make your company accountable for the actions of your employees. This letter will be featured in a newsletter which is received in the inbox of over 25,000 people, and visible on the internet to our audience of over 15,000 per day. As an open letter, your company is free to respond openly on the website as a comment.
In order to make sure this letter is acted on, I will be mailing this to your corporate headquarters and to the Manager of the Derby Wal-Mart. To rectify this situation, we would like to receive a written apology from both the corporate office and the Derby Wal-Mart, as well as have action taken as necessary against the employees involved in this situation. I am saddened that it has to be taken this far, but in light of the treatment we received; I feel the situation can not be ignored.
Thank you for your time.
Tyler Thompson”
30 thoughts on “Buyer Beware: Walmart Site to Store, An Open Letter”
Can’t really be mad in this situation since you made the mistake. Once payment is made, of any value in any time frame, it has to go through the entire process. Credit and debit payments always take up to 48 hours to refund normally.
The only thing that I know that may help you is to call 1800 Walmart (1-800-925-6278). Make sure that you have your order tracking number. Its located in your confirmation email
Hopefully I will be able to go in tomorrow and my item will be sitting there waiting for me. Perhaps my nightmare will be mild compared to what other have had to deal with.
After 7 years they have not made any progress with their Site to Store option. What a disgrace. Someone must be held accountable and removed from their duties. Amazon is cleaning their clock. I have items that I ordered from Amazon to go along with the item I ordered from Walmart. I placed my Amazon order 9 days after my Walmart order and the Amazon order arrived in 2 days with free shipping. Bonus: Amazon actually gave me a tracking number!
I ordered 2 storage bins, seemingly simple order. Not so much. The first time I went to pick them up I wasted app. 45 min in the store. They couldn’t find the GIANT things anywhere. Then, while I was STILL in the store waiting on them they called my boyfriends ex-wife asking for ME, just because I had him on the pickup person list. I have no clue where they could have even got the number from, she certainly wasn’t on the pickup list, and I hadn’t even provided his phone number. SO, that was the first time, that was unsuccessful, because they never found them.
Then 2 WEEKS later (after obviously re-ordering) they called me to come back. Spent another 30 minutes in there waiting… they were furiously looking for them again… when they finally emerged from the back of the store I pointed out that the 2 giant boxes sitting behind the register said “Sterile Storage Bins” and that they were perhaps mine. And they were. UNBELEIVABLE!
Quit bitching, things happen. You don’t praise the upside of Wal-Mart’s business model (cheap stuff, free shipping to your local store, etc) yet you will write a 1,500 essay to corporate because they lost your copy of guitar hero?
Grow up, dipshits.
The funny part is that the memory card for the camera (a $20 item) was shipped to my local store by FedEx and arrived on the 9th. As I have no need for it without the camera I was planning to pick them up together. After reading a lot of comments on this page I may go pick it up sooner just to make sure it’s really there. And you can bet I’m going to open everything right there at the counter.
I’m not shocked to hear that the local managers aren’t very helpful in these matters since the online store undercats them by a significant margin and so takes business away from their store. Who’s going to be happy to work at a store where your own corporate offices are under-selling you then using your store as a free delivery service?
I understand that new systems have kinks in them but they’ve been at this for years now and have had more than enough time to optimize the routing and delivery processes. Even when shipping by truck you should be able to get something from wherever it is to a Walmart store in 1 to 2 weeks (10 business days) at the very most. And it shouldn’t take 3+ days to truck something from Laurens,SC to Tampa, FL (or even MS for that matter; it’s only a 10 hour drive).
In this day and age this sort of a delivery schedule is unbelievable. I placed the order on Sunday and it took them until Thursday morning to get the camera out the door on a truck. The memory card arrived at my local store store 39 minutes after the camera left Laurens on a truck! That’s crazy!
Another reason I detest the store is the quality of people, employees and customers. I asked a customer in the shoe department if she knew where the ladies’ shoes were — I couldn’t find any employees, in case you’re wondering — and she said, “I don’t really care.” Isn’t that beautiful? I don’t buy the “having a bad day” excuse for any reason. It doesn’t cost you any more to be pleasant, no matter what kind of day you’re having.
My final reason for my disgust is the lack of awareness on behalf of any employee. When an employee sees someone squinting, that might be a clue that someone is having a hard time finding something, so you might want to offer assistance. I saw at least three employees whiz by me as I was straining to find something; not one person asked if I needed help. This should have nothing to do with lack of training; it’s called “using your brain.”
“oh, thats not how we do it now” says the dept manager curtly. YOU HAVE TO GO to site to store.. I reluctantly went to site to store, and behold. NO ONE there. I pressed the buttons on the console “someone will be with you shortly’. After about 15 min. and asking every associate on their way past me for help, A lady from the front finally shows up and says “you’ll have to wait a few minutes’. LAST STRAW because by now, i’m no longer no. 1 in line at tire and lube and i leave really pissed and cancel the order. I’m now awaiting a credit and have entered a formal dispute, along with several emails explaining this dilemma. I’m a long time loyal wmt customer, that this is the end for me NO more walmart. There ARE other choices.folks, Our particular WMT in dunnellon florida has obviously lost sales and reduced inventory shows it.
Make sure that you open the package in front of the employee. This is their policy and thank goodness I did. When I opened the box, we took the package material out of the box and there WAS NO NANO!! The employee contacted the CSM and the CSM questioned the employee to make sure I opened it in front of her. We both said yes. They were completely shocked that the nano was not there. They handled it well and refunded my $ to the gift card and went to electronics and got the nano and I repurchased it with the gift card. No problems.
Now, here it is 2/14 and I am still waiting for the rest of the order to ship. I’m not so concerned because they didn’t promise it until 2/18-2/24, but it makes me curious as to what happened to the 1st ipod and whether I will get the others. Just a word of caution–MAKE SURE YOU OPEN THE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF AN EMPLOYEE!!
I personally ordered something just recently from Walmart.com and chose the ship to store option (to the Derby store) and I had no problems. The intial email stated it would arrive between Feb. 10th and Feb. 17 and it arrived today (Feb. 10.) I still have to pick said item up from the store, which I will do in a few hours but I am optimistic that I won’t have any problems.
While I understand the huge annoyance of when you happen to be the unlucky few that do run into problems and unprofessional staff, chances are if you take a chance it that it won’t happen again. But you can’t condemn an entire company just because of a few problems. Even if they are relatively sizable ones.
Wal-mart is not the best company, really in my book they are one of the worst but they do have lower prices and lower quality employees.
Lets face it, you get what you pay for. Your penance for getting stuff for lower prices is unprofessional employees.
You want great employees and great service? Shop where the prices are a little hire.
As it is, I do not like Walmart at all, and the only reason I sent them my business this time was because I had a Walmart Gift card.
Moreover, I still laugh at every ad I see about Walmart’s “Low Prices”. On disposable purchases, like food and toiletries and anything that is a set quantity of that product and you have to keep buying (regardless of where), Walmart does have low prices, but not always the lowest. I consistently find the lowest prices elsewhere online, particularly from some of the big online retailers, particularly for big ticket items. Heck, sales tax aside, I can find lower prices online (not including ebay) from online retailers that are so low, they are still under Walmart’s prices after sales tax is added.
I personally believe Walmart is one of the reasons driving many companies to send American jobs over seas because they are driving the prices so low. Not to mention how they devastate the local economy wherever they open a store.
When “Site to Store” began months ago, only CSMs and “Members of Management” were allowed to process those transactions. These people received some **actual** training, and for all we knew, these were the people who would continue to do Site to Store.
Then, a few weeks ago, we were told that the electronics department would be responsible for Site to Store, and we had to learn how to do it, but there was no organized training.
Training generally means standing behind someone while they, using their best understanding of the process, rip through it without explaining what they did or why they did it.
Everyone that tries to teach Site to Store has a slightly different version of what the correct way is.
There are several different ways of finding the customers order, but the best way is by scanning the bar code printed on the “your order has arrived” e-mail, except that it often won’t scan correctly. WalMart is trying to blame this on the customer’s printers.
Boloney!
Fourteen years has taught me how sharp a barcode needs to be. Incompetent computer programers are causing faulty bar codes to be generated! I see this kind of stupidity all the time on merchandise we are selling. The worst offenders are faulty barcodes to be scanned for serial numbers.
I suggested that “screen shots” could be made of all the steps and variations that make-up a Site to Store transaction. These could be made into a Site to Store instruction manual, but the computers we use in Site to Store won’t allow “screen shots”.
Electronics and toys are the busiest departments at Christmas. We don’t have any extra people even during the rest of the year, but here we are, heading into the holidays, under staffed, poorly trained and struggling with bulky software.